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	<title>Comments on: Is Java Dead on Mac OS X?</title>
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		<title>By: Walt Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.damnhandy.com/2007/04/15/is-java-dead-on-mac-os-x/#comment-23494</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am lucky to work on a team that develops Java desktop applications for multiple platforms, Linux, Windows and Mac.  We have had some great ideas to leverage some of the Java2D enhancements in 1.6 for some of our soon to be released products.  Unfortunately, Java 1.6 support on the Mac has turned out to be quite a frustrating ball and chain since our Mac developers are still using older but still fairly recent G5 based Power Mac hardware which performs miserably with Java 1.6 b88.  I am one of the Linux developers and while I appreciate the awsome look and feel the Mac platform brings, you will never convince me to adpot a platform that so blatantly ignores supporting paying customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am lucky to work on a team that develops Java desktop applications for multiple platforms, Linux, Windows and Mac.  We have had some great ideas to leverage some of the Java2D enhancements in 1.6 for some of our soon to be released products.  Unfortunately, Java 1.6 support on the Mac has turned out to be quite a frustrating ball and chain since our Mac developers are still using older but still fairly recent G5 based Power Mac hardware which performs miserably with Java 1.6 b88.  I am one of the Linux developers and while I appreciate the awsome look and feel the Mac platform brings, you will never convince me to adpot a platform that so blatantly ignores supporting paying customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Herron</title>
		<link>http://www.damnhandy.com/2007/04/15/is-java-dead-on-mac-os-x/#comment-23015</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Herron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

John O'Conner made similar comments on his blog before the Leopard delay announcement. Recycling my response to him: As far as Apple's commitment to Java goes, keep in mind that Apple's online store, .Mac and the iTunes music store all run on WebObjects (Java). Apple is currently hiring Java developers for these and other internal projects such as re-architecting the Apple Developer Connection using Java. Its obvious from the Leopard delay that there's a resource crunch, and Java is just not high enough on the priority list.

Now that Java has been open-sourced fully, I wonder if Apple would consider taking their Java source tree and opening it up like WebKit etc. at http://www.macosforge.org/ ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>John O&#8217;Conner made similar comments on his blog before the Leopard delay announcement. Recycling my response to him: As far as Apple&#8217;s commitment to Java goes, keep in mind that Apple&#8217;s online store, .Mac and the iTunes music store all run on WebObjects (Java). Apple is currently hiring Java developers for these and other internal projects such as re-architecting the Apple Developer Connection using Java. Its obvious from the Leopard delay that there&#8217;s a resource crunch, and Java is just not high enough on the priority list.</p>
<p>Now that Java has been open-sourced fully, I wonder if Apple would consider taking their Java source tree and opening it up like WebKit etc. at <a href="http://www.macosforge.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macosforge.org/</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Romain Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.damnhandy.com/2007/04/15/is-java-dead-on-mac-os-x/#comment-23010</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't be that much worried. After all, the latest release offered by Apple is Java SE 6 1.6 b88, which is not that far behind Sun's (Java SE 6 final was in the b10X range if I remember correctly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be that much worried. After all, the latest release offered by Apple is Java SE 6 1.6 b88, which is not that far behind Sun&#8217;s (Java SE 6 final was in the b10X range if I remember correctly.)</p>
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